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November 2017 – Bollywood Blind Item 3

    The next blind item for today comes from Rajeev Masand. It’s a freshly-released blind item and is about everyone’s favourite controversy’s star. We don’t know exactly what it is with her and the people she works with. Is it she interferes too much and they don’t like it because she’s a woman calling the shots? Because when Aamir Khan does it, he’s called a perfectionist and a team player, who wants the best for his film.

    So why is it when a woman does it, she rubs everyone the wrong way? Unless she is calling these people names and insulting them, we really have no idea how these people hate her so much. Is it wrong to be a woman with an opinion about her job? Rani Mukherjee once said that when actor gets involved in all aspects of the film-making of his film, he’s called a perfectionist but when an actress does it, she is called a bitch!

    It must be a hard world for them to live in the 50s where women are pushed behind. Didn’t Salman Khan said this is why Katrina Kaif is successful: She shuts her mouth and does what’s asked of her on the sets.

    Anyways, check out who this blind item is about.

     

    Bollywood Blind Item

    November 2017 – Bollywood Blind Item 3

    As Good as It Gets

    At a film party not long ago, a prominent filmmaker who was engaged in a conversation with the leading lady of his most recent dud, got his revenge on the actress, whom he has said gave him a hard time during the making of the film.

    On spotting a screenwriter who had engaged in a spat with the actress in the media recently, the director beckoned him to join them, then excused himself to visit the men’s room, leaving the two warring parties face to face and feeling very awkward.

    Nicely played.

     

    OSOP Guesses

    Filmmaker: Vishal Bhardwaj

    Leading Lady: Kangana Ranaut

    Screenwriter: Apurva Asrani

    November 2017 – Bollywood Blind Item 3

    November 2017 – Bollywood Blind Item 3

    November 2017 – Bollywood Blind Item 3

    November 2017 – Bollywood Blind Item 3

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    1. ghjk, I was reading your comments with some interest, until you entirely lost your credibility with the black magic comment.

      But since you are equating Kangana’s sex life with her personal character, and unfairly insinuating this makes her an undeserving actress, I will put down a couple examples.

      It’s unfair to call Kangana a two bit floozy and extol Sridevi in the same verse, when the reality is that Sridevi, in her time of need was given shelter by a woman (Mona Kapoor), and ended up repaying that woman’s kindness by sleeping with that woman’s husband (Boney), getting pregnant and breaking up their family of very young children. This has cause immeasurable damage to the children. Of course, Boney and Sridevi are equally to blame, but why would any woman do this to another? Wouldn’t the decent thing to do be to walk away when a married father is seducing you? Even if Mona and Boney had marital problems prior to her entry, she didn’t even wait until they were legally separated before she spread open her legs to Boney. Sridevi must pray every night as a mother of young daughters, that they should never endure the heartbreak Mona has. Meanwhile, Kangana is also rumoured to have been much married family man Ajay’s side-piece for quite a long time.

      As a lover of cinema, I try my best to separate my feelings between appreciating an actor’s screen persona and commenting on their personal life. Why spoil a movie because of personal prejudice? Not a single person in the industry is virtuous and perfect. I greatly admire both Sridevi and Kangana for their acting talents. This comes with some limitations, because it also isn’t ethically right to support an actor or producer and fill their pockets by watching their movies, if they are distributing intimate pictures without consent, like a silly ex, or inflicting sexual violence on someone like Harvey Weinstein and others. I might be judgemental about Sridevi and Kangana’s choices in life but I won’t stop watching and appreciating them. I don’t think that they are nearly as evil as you are trying to portray Kangana. She has opened the floodgates to a dialogue that a lot of industry people are uncomfortable with (Nepotism). Kangana isn’t out to destroy anyone’s livelihood and so doesn’t deserve to be black-listed from the movie industry because of personal prejudices, her incredibly poor taste in men and headstrong nature.

      1. Agree with you, Kali amma…What Sridevi did to that poor woman and to think that the woman had to suffer and go through cancer the way she did is just heartbreaking. Well like they say, if they don’t pay back on earth, karma will get them after they die. This is what will happen to Sridevi. She might be a good actress, but what she did was inexcusable. And for whom? For that clown looking Kapoor?

        1. Agreed Admin. I have never been a big fan or admirer of Arjun Kapoor. I have always seen him as a kind of Bozo for chasing Malaika, and doing the same thing to Arhaan that endured too. I read a quote from an interview of his talking about his sister, and my perspective towards him changed a little:
          “Imagine a child who has been through a life where the father couldn’t be physically around, after they turned five. And the mother who was there physically and then after 20 years, she wasn’t there. Imagine the psychological scarring of that child”.

          Btw, this is what Sridevi spoke of virginity and marriage in an interview from 2011.
          ” there are some people who do believe that virginity is the most prized possession a woman takes with her to her husband’s house after she is married. What’s wrong with that? But yes, it seems to have become a trend to have a lot of affairs and indulge in sex before marriage. I would never be able to do it. I don’t know how they manage.”
          http://www.santabanta.com/bollywood/48697/i-dont-know-how-they-manage-to-do-sex-before-marriage/

          Umm.. What?

          Quote from Mona Kapoor:
          “He (Boney) was 10 years older to me. I was 19 when I married him. So I literally grew up with him. Ours was a 13-year-old marriage. So it came as a shock when I realised that my husband was in love with somebody else… There was nothing left in the relationship to give it a chance because Sridevi was already with a child.”

          Sridevi was already pregnant when she was married! Whats more is that as long as Mona was alive, she was still his legally wedded wife because Sridevi and Boney had a temple wedding. Sridevi apparently was terribly insecure with Boney visiting and spending time with Arjun and Anshula.

          http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/throwback-sridevi-boney-huge-fight-arjun-kapoor/1/968356.html

          Yes, Sridevi is also the same woman who caused Yogeeta Bali to slit her wrists in a suicide attempt because of a ‘secret marriage’ with Mithun Charkraborty.

          1. I am a south Indian. So i hear stories of sridevi from tollywood actors. Sridevi is the original Ice Queen along with being uneducated and only was fed stardom.She was left ignorant by her mother-sister and was considered extremely unfriendly and arrogant. I am pretty sure Jhanvi who was until now groomed by her mom lives in her own bubble…I highly doubt if she can speak a few lines from her own thoughts. having watched both BW and TW movies…some of her best work was in south…yet I was always unimpressed with her because of her nature.She never let Boney spend time with Arjun-Anshula … talent is nothing without a decent heart. Maybe be good for her.

      2. Kali – ghjk is not the only one…look at others. All i said was if people only with talent have to succeed and everyone else need to be ridiculed and publicly humiliated then even Kangana may not cut it through…because there are people more talented than Kangana who never got a break. But according to her fans here there cannot be talent greater than her and using random words like Feminism, Hippocracy, ignorance , nepotism out of context and calling them Facts.

        1. kiran101 – unfortunately, that is just the way life is. Not everyone who is truly deserving and talented always gets a change to break into Bollywood without connections. On the other hand, there are also people WITH family connections who are talented and make it, and people WITH family connections who fizzle out.

          This is the difference between Harman Baweja & Hrithik Roshan and Esha Deol & Alia Bhatt. They are all filmy kids, but some of them have fizzled out due to lack of talent and star charisma. Audiences have rejected them.

          As for the nepotism issue, I don’t think I am completely against it. I think, as a parent it is natural to want the best for your child. Whether it is getting them admission in the best school, making sure they have the best costume for a fancy dress contest, etc. So I don’t blame these mommies and daddies for making sure their offspring gets the best launch. Lets face it, anyone in the same scenario would do the same for their child. Everyone wants their child to pull their legacy forward, especially if one comes from an illustrious acting family. It goes without saying that a rich family is more capable of enrolling their child in the Lee Strasberg Theatre and Film Institute than a local street-side vegetable seller. If anyone thinks this is financially unfair, then they are asking for a return of communism.

          The biggest difference in their case is that these star kids get opportunity after opportunity to make movies again even if their movies don’t succeed. This is something I am against. Do you think a talentless whiner like Adhyayan Suman would be casted again if his father didn’t produce a movie for him? Would an unanimated board like Athiya Shetty get casted again without connections? Why was a criminal like Sooraj Pancholi even debuted under a big banner? Is there a lack of talent in the National School of Drama? God only knows how many talented people like Smita Patil are still languishing in FTII because someone’s daughter was signed on for a movie.

          1. I agree…and i can finally hope that someone see’s my point. No one would cast Adhyayan-Athiya if not their own family and frankly i dont even know what movies they did. Their family is ready to drain family fortune and its their call. They are not obligated to find next Smita Patil . All I am saying is these parents and even Karan Johar would not be making a movie if not for these star kids. So the question of auditions and search for talent is moot point. If all things are fair in this world we would not be even discussing this…everyone has to do their best with what they have. I feel its not KJo’s responsibility to bring ‘Smita patil’ to us . He does not view things that way…. People from National School of Drama should look at working for different film makers. Karan Johar views BW as some elite club….he will welcome you if your successful but will not give you a break. Its the same in Hollywood and world over. Also, talent is just a raw material…just on its own it isnt worth much. Many talented people do not have screen presence .
            Finally , Athiya and Adhyayan are not even mildly successful…they do not even have offers. Abhishek fizzled out …AB sr hired best of directors and produced movies yet. If you look at their viewpoint they worked so hard(in their on way) to make their children’s career . These people by re launching their kids have so much more to lose…dent of kids inheritance and parents net worth. How can anyone expect to invest so much on some one from National school of drama however talented they are ? I would invest on tutoring my mediocre child over brilliant child from ‘Gifted School group” who is less privileged. And cannot expect such a gesture from cut throat and vapid society like Bollywood…every outsider dream is to become insider and guess what they are turn out like KJo in different scales.

        2. Sonam cannot act, neither can Athiya Shetty, Arjun Kapoor and many others – how is that public humiliation? I cannot play cricket and I dance as if I have two left feet – How is that public humiliation?

          1. Ridiculing them on National tv is public humiliation. “Blind people cannot see” so lets ridicule and crack jokes on disabled people ? Do you even hear yourself ? I never saw a movie of Athiya-Sonam. I saw 2 states…frankly Arjun was fine in the movie. You hate them so much and watch their movies ?? why ? I mean you already say they are bad actors. tell me something you say you have an amazing job profile … and seemingly in corporate world. Are you publicly calling out people who messed their work or were you ever a witness to Public firing of an employee because…its a matter of fact. Good luck young Lady/Gentleman…this is quite enlightening.

          2. Dont be sorry for me… I do not view “Average mediocre” as something despicable. In fact anyone who did not achieve world recognition like Nobel prize, Fields Medal or atleast a publication in Nature in respective field along with having a PHD according to me are average and mediocre. I applaud you that you think extremely high of yourself.

            1. “Far from “average mediocre”” does not equate to “extremely highly” – “nobel prize winning level” it means “good, decent, respectable”, adjectives that 1 should use to describe 1self & 1’s achievements – normal levels of self-esteem

              1. Different people different standards … if you live in Boston/silicon valley even people with IIT-PHD are considered above average at best.

                Good, decent , respectable = Average.(in ur own words “normal levels”) far from average is “high functioning contributor”

                1. and the ones to drop out like Mark, Steve and the likes are geniuses … cause they created the market & did something differen, but let us no get side tracked if High Functioning Silicon Valley Engineers r “average/mediocre” than how on earth can Talentless Nepokids be the chosen ones or even freaking “acceptable”?

                  Saying an actor can act or not it no the same as laughing at a differently able person (on national TV). How did u come up with that? Is this some high level of sarcasm that has gone straight over my mediocre head? WTH!! If u dont want to continue than thats fine but no need to troll.

                  1. No one is trolling you. you keep contradicting yourself. I just asked you not to pity me for being “mediocre”. Mark/Steve already proved themselves…they have world recognition like I already mentioned. Why this rant about talent-less nepo kids…You cannot fire them, they work for their own production. read my take on nepotism if interested in this comment section…if possible try to understand what I am saying. I despise the fact that KJO is selling Ranbir as superstar since last 10 years. So what does kangana and you want ? Yes there are privileged people in this world , yes there are people more talented than you who are jobless. If Kangana has the attitude to rise above then she will and she did … if only she did not have all that bitterness and resentment towards more privileged people. A bad actor to you might be a decent actor to me. Katrina is not nepo kid yet she is still surviving(both katrina-kangna had sugar daddies). If you dont want to accept dont …there are others who are willing to accept…which is probably why they still exist. I am done here.

                    1. U r the one contradicting urself. I disagree with favoritism and nepotism & any other form of corruption. Yes it happens, but it shouldn’t. Speaking up and engaging in dialog, letting them know if they are guilty is one BIG way to deal with the problem. Things dont change over night, working one day at a time does. As an audience we can reject their movies. I dont hate anyone, saying someone isnt good at their job, when it is a fact is not humiliating them. I am not on CNN or BBC making fun of anyone or what they do or cannot do.

                      U escalated every single thing I said and twisted it. I dont hate anyone, i dont wish death on anyone, i dont make fun of the differently able. I made it clear if I dont like someones work, I dont like Sonam’s acting, Kjo’s talk shows or his movies, I dont like the work of Arjun and a bandwagon of others – i dont need to see a movie to know when a person cannot act, usually the trailer is enough.

                      I apologize for my tone, I meant no disrespect to u or ur opinions.

                      Ur take on what is average/mediocre is urs and mine is different.

              2. I’m shocked at how many people missed my point. Even the admin is still grappling with it, apparently (and I will not bother with Nar). Firstly, I didn’t bring Sridevi up, admin did. Secondly, and more crucially, my point was, and remains, that the industry salutes the magnetism that brings butts to seats. They don’t listen to women because women don’t bring the ticket sales. In Tumhari Sulu, who do you think had the director’s ear more, Vidya or the guy who played her husband? It’s all about the money, and the admin refuses to acknowledge the point, instead bringing in Katrina?

                1. You kinda missed the point on what we were trying to point out. The point that was being made was, directors are ashamed to hear an actress’ opinion on the script in front of others. Like Kangana herself said, the director’s ego gets smashed if she were to give her opinion in front of others. The director would rather she does it in private, not in front of other people. It’s different from when an actor does it in front of others, he is called a perfectionist. Do you see the difference? It’s not about making money or being a feminist, it’s about these old-fashion men who can’t bring themselves to hear a woman’s point of view in case they are laughed at. You were referring to how much money is brought in and who should be able to voice his/her opinion, hence the Katrina reference.

                  1. Kangana is crazy and a liar, I don’t trust a word that comes out her mouth. She’s playing the victim to “big bad Bollywood”, and it’s gonna come back to bite her hard. Parallel cinema is dead, there’s no place for people who stir the pot and call people on their own side names.

                2. Dont be shocked, ppl missed ur point because ur point was aimed at attaching Kangana. Dont even try to sugar coat it now.

            2. Looks like Kangana fans are in abusive word…anyone not calling her a goddess are labeled as hippocracy and ignorant. Making personal attacks to not subscribing to your views is low.

              1. @Kali’s opinion below is fine, she calls a spade a spade – Kangana isnt perfect, neither is Sridevi but I love both of them. I would defend them and any other woman if they are called names like “Black Magician” “hoe” “randi” “sleep with 1/2 of men” etc. cause that is damn out of line!

            3. Vishal doesn’t have the guts to take on shahid ir saif. So hes taking out his anger on Rangoons failure on kangana. He should have made a good movie instead. It was horrible!! His previous movies had racist scenes. Im glad he has been shown reality now, just like anurag kashyap after Bombay velvet.

            4. Am I in crazy land, or are commentators just leaning towards the admin’s bias? Of course being interfering and dominating will be called “being hard to work with”, it’s not only because she’s a woman. Are you seriously comparing her to Aamir Khan? SRK, Aamir and Salman call all the shots because they know what they wanna do, and how they wanna do it. They wanna earn money, and they adjust everything in the movie accordingly. What has Kangna achieved, in terms of hits? TWM and Queen? Yeah, come back when she has a legacy of 20+ super hits that she headlined.

              As for “the hero can do things the heroine cannot”, that’s because the hero carries the movie, and the heroine cannot. Not here, not in Hollywood (yeah, yeah, Wonder Woman = woman power. Go see how women writers are talking about why it’s not a “real feminist movie”. In any case, it’s the exception, check out the top 10 earners year-on-year).

              So yeah, admin, leave your Kangna is best bias behind for at least a week. Let her direct movies if she loves to be in charge so much. Didn’t she direct a short? What happened to it? Nobody liked it? Lol.

              1. It was not our bias opinions that we were stating, but what actresses have been complaining. Not just actresses, but all ladies that work in the entertainment world whether it’s in Bollywood or Hollywood. Read again and tell us where we mentioned that Kangana is the best? This is about a man not being able to take direction from a woman but allows their male actors to freely give their opinions. The only actress that directors listened to and were scared of was Sridevi. Fact is, a woman giving suggestion to the director on the sets is not welcome and the director feels ashamed to be put in that position. But sure, when Salman doesn’t care less about their script and wants to do things his way, that’s fine!

                1. “allows their male actors to freely give their opinions. The only actress that directors listened to and were scared of was Sridevi.”

                  Exactly! Sridevi was heard because she could rake in the moolah on her own merit. She wasn’t a two bit floozy who believed in black magic and slept with half the industry, only to one day wake up and be a feminism icon. Sridevi bought people to the seats, like the actors that the director listens to do. I am repeating myself because you apparently decided to ignore my entire point.

                  1. No, my dear. We didn’t ignore. It’s alright if you have opinions, there’s nothing wrong with that. As long as these ladies are talented, they should give their opionion because assuming they are invested in their characters, they should be able to tell the flow of their story. If this is wrong, then imagine Katrina Kaif telling Shah Rukh and Ranbir Kapoor that she didn’t like the way they performed their scenes and that they should do it again? She was number one at one point with a range of hit films, is she entitled to give her opinions like that?

                    1. What a two bit floozey is ghjk? Cant see past their own bias towards Kangana. Since when did she sleep with the entire industry? What is black magic? R u for real? She is a feminist & a feminist icon. She isnt a Goddest Worth Worshipping or an ideal woman from a fictional story. She is a real life woman, someone who made mistakes, took advice from the wrong ppl, probably rub ppl the wrong way but some how she emerge stronger, more focus, improve on her craft & continue to share what she wishes as an artist & public figure. Sorry u cant see the truth of her success. Dont bash admin or any of her fans. If u have nothing meaningful to say, then say nothing at all. U accussations of her sleeping around, witchcraft & whatever else is rubbish.

                      The truth is Vishal & the producer should have bought the rights to Nadia’s story if he truly wanted to make the movie he claim he wanted to make.

                      1. If Kangana was a feminist why did he take Dig at Deepika’s boxers comment ? Why is she attacking other actresses like sonam who are less talented than kangana…is it feminism to pull another woman down.In kangana’s own words ” why does Deepika keeps messaging me , i want to be left alone ” and then she throws a shade on deepika on her boxers comment. Call Kangana the best actress in the world…its ur opinion. But as a woman I disagree she is a feminist…and its a fact…its not the question of opinion in this matter…unless the meaning of Feminist is changed.

                        1. About Kangana’s “I want to be left alone” quote, here is the context: “Rajeev Masand planned a ‘Katti Batti’ round with actors Imran Khan and Kangana Ranaut along with director Nikhil Advani. When Rajeev asked Kangana whether she was ‘Katti’ or ‘Batti’ with Deepika, the ‘Queen’ took no time to say ‘Katti’. Kangana said, “We didn’t hug, we didn’t meet, we didn’t cry, we are not emotional at all.” On being asked if she’s going to covert it into a ‘Batti’, she just rolled her eyes saying, “I want to be ‘left alone’ on this topic.””

                          – I do not see how this, or her position on star kids re: nepotism are inconsistent with feminism!?!

                          1. kangana is born with innate talent than Sonam or other nepo kids. Star kids are born with money and connections.If star kids are unfairly advantaged by birth so is kangana. Do you know there are thousands of talented men/woman much more than kangana who never catch a break ? Should they curse kangana for that ? Feminism is about treating and giving equal opportunities for male/female and not be discriminated based on gender. Nepotism has both men/woman benefiting that way Nepotism has nothing to do with Feminism since both are completely separate issues. The day I truly come across Kangana as a genuinely secure and truly a feminist i will I admit. Good for you that you love her and view her as flawless. I hope she has good people as her advisers. At this point she seems to be influenced by keyboard warriors saying ” You Go girl ! ” and not watching her movies. Who needs fans like that. Such a waste of talent…she clearly overshadowed Priyanka in ‘Fashion’ Movie.

                            1. I agree with this: “kangana is born with innate talent than Sonam or other nepo kids.”

                              You lost me at “.If star kids are unfairly advantaged by birth so is kangana.” Are you saying being a talented actor is an unfair advantage? SMH.

                              1. Yes… everyone have different advantages in life. Some have more talent some less.Some more money some less. Ofcourse Star kids parents will fund their kids movies if their children wants to be in movies. They will do anything to realize their kids dreams and it does not come cheap for them. That is not nepotism. Kjo is the producer he is interested in launching star kids maybe their parents Ghost produce movies … if he is not launching star kids then he is not making those movies in first place. What exactly is Kangana’s complaint ? That kids parents who has the means to provide for their kids doing it ? Let me tell you if kangana were ever to produce a movie she will call shots on who to hire and if she thinks her brother is worthy guess what she will give him a role. Its not like Indian cricket team selections where there is a clear winner like who hits the ball who does not. Director -producer vision of who fits the role. Kjo thinks star kids are star material …that is his money and viewpoint. Kangana has falsely accused him of nepotism since there is no such thing as clear winner or loser in such things as who should be cast for a movie…its not a government position where there is an common test and cut off mark requirement.

                                1. Oh dear, I’m afraid you lost me with this hypocrisy!

                                  “there is no such thing as clear winner or loser in such things as who should be cast for a movie…its not a government position where there is an common test and cut off mark requirement.”

                                  —- There actually is a thing called auditions and casting that do precisely this job, to determine who has the skill sets required for the acting job. Outsiders go through this process for years, losing their prime years to this testing process that industry kids skip. Also, based on this unfair advantage of insider status and not genuine acting talent, industry kids work in better quality productions even when they are very early in their careers. Not the case for outsiders. Example: listen to Jim Sarbh’s and Harshvardhan’s interview with Rajeev Masand on YouTube.

                                  The dictionary definition of nepotism is the unfair use of power in order to get jobs or other benefits for your family or friends. So what KJo and other producers do by launching and endlessly hiring and promoting industry kids is nepotism. It is a fact.

                                  Kangana pointed out that Karan Johar promotes nepotism. KJo could not deny that and went on to say “Nepotism rocks!”. Which is wrong and KJo apologized for it. So saying that “Kangana has falsely accused him of nepotism” is factually incorrect.

                                  You said: “In kangana’s own words ” why does Deepika keeps messaging me , i want to be left alone ””. Factually incorrect. Those are your words and not Kangana’s, as I mentioned in the previous post.

                                  You may not like her. But facts are not on your side. Enough said.

                                  1. check meaning of hypocrisy… i made no personal attack on you . Repay the civility. I displayed no double standards to call me names. I am DONE here.

                                    1. Hey kiran101. I did not mean that as a personal attack. It was meant for your comments as I feel we are way past that point where existence of nepotism in Bollywood is up for argument. It is very much there and credit goes where it is due – to Kangana for igniting that fire on national TV that has sparked these discussions about nepotism in Bollywood across media platforms, Such as:

                                      http://www.huffingtonpost.in/bhaskar-chawla/bollywood-s-nepotism-debate-is-a-terrific-lesson-in-how-privileg_a_22023243/

                                      http://www.livemint.com/Consumer/FZftXzIO9oQt9KMesWN9eI/Which-Bollywood-producer-scores-highest-on-the-Nepotism-Inde.html

                                      So you insisting that there is no nepotism in Bollywood and that Kangana falsely accused KJo seemed like beating a dead horse.
                                      Peace out.

                                      1. Nepotism is illegal ?…If Yes then Kangana should combat legally. Kjo thinks star kids are talented and investing money on them….or he looks at them like some Business Model.He is investing his own money on them not public fund. How is this nepotism ? The role was never meant for an eligible candidate …he is making roles for a specific candidate. There is no question of auditions and talent hunt since he is making the movie with star kid or not making the movie at all. Guess what he will also give up at some point. Like he did with Abhishek Bachchan , right now he is busy making a superstar out of Ranbir Kapoor.

                                        Edit : Most of the movies are partially produced by their parents. Parents investing on kids prospective career using their money is Nepotism ?? If yes then Inheritance should be made illegal. No one should inherit and re invest in their own ventures with their parents wealth.

                                      2. unless “Dharma Productions ” has gone public and has major outside stake holders than Karan Johar , who he hires cannot be Nepotism issue. Because Nepotism by law/legally is prohibited and can be considered a illegal…unless the stakeholders vote for it. According to Kangana You sending your own kids to school is Nepotism since there are many street kids with more intellect and Interest for education than ur own kids cannot go to school.

                                        1. Oh dear, I’m afraid you lost me with this hypocrisy!

                                          “there is no such thing as clear winner or loser in such things as who should be cast for a movie…its not a government position where there is an common test and cut off mark requirement.”

                                          —- There actually is a thing called auditions and casting that do precisely this job, to determine who has the skill sets required for the acting job. Outsiders go through this process for years, losing their prime years to this testing process that industry kids skip. Also, based on this unfair advantage of insider status and not genuine acting talent, industry kids work in better quality productions even when they are very early in their careers. Not the case for outsiders. Example: listen to Jim Sarbh’s and Harshvardhan’s interview with Rajeev Masand on YouTube.

                                          The dictionary definition of nepotism is the unfair use of power in order to get jobs or other benefits for your family or friends. So what KJo and other producers do by launching and endlessly hiring and promoting industry kids is nepotism. It is a fact.

                                          Kangana pointed out that Karan Johar promotes nepotism. KJo could not deny that and went on to say “Nepotism rocks!”. Which is wrong and KJo apologized for it. So saying that “Kangana has falsely accused him of nepotism” is factually incorrect.

                                          You said: “In kangana’s own words ” why does Deepika keeps messaging me , i want to be left alone ””. Factually incorrect. Those are your words and not Kangana’s, as I mentioned in the previous post.

                                          You may not like her. But facts are not on your side. Enough said.

                                        2. She is talented and isn’t wasting her time – So Rangoon and Simran flopped but she did an excellent job as an actor and a dialog writer. She did overshadow Priyanka in Fashion and Krish3 but she went on to work in Queen & TWMR series, she is working on the iconic Jhansi ki Rani (Manikarnika), she did 2 film making courses in New York with her own earnings. All of this after Fashion – what else is she to do to prove she is working very hard & she is one of the best actors we have in Btwon?

                                        3. Being a feminist doesn’t mean to automatically like every single woman on planet earth. Kangana damn well has her issues but she doesn’t beat around the bush for no one, not even the mighty KJO on his own show – so who is Deepika and Sonam? If Kangana doesn’t want Deepika to msg her anymore she let that be known, Tbh I did not even know Deepika mention loving Ranbir’s boxers and I have no clue if the comment Kangana made was a “diss” for Deepika – Its the most bazaar thing to talk about.

                                          Coming back to the infamous event between Kangana and Deepika – Did Deepika truly need to dedicate her award to Kangana? Everyone knows it is all pretend, Kangana wasnt there, Deepika got it for God knows what at which Award show I do not know and What was Deepika trying to show the world (cause not Btown) that Kangana “deserved” it? What? Respect?, fame? award charity? What? Seriously? It was a mess & Kangana reacted the only way she knows how – With full EMOTIONS.

                                          1. So anything Kangana does is automatically right and all well intention-ed. Anything DP does is full of malice…DP was being nice and probably did think Kangana deserved the award. Ofcourse DP talking abour Rk boxers is bizzare …so are many things said by kangana. Anyways i do not value any National awards more than Filmfare awards …its all power play….and politics. You dont have to like every woman out there but you dont have to ridicule. What is the difference between Kjo ridiculing Kangan’s english and Kangana ridiculing sonam and others talent. None of that is Feminism. OH btw did priyanka not dedicate her award to Vidya or something like that…i did not see anyone of them throwing a fit. “full Emotions ” please tell me that is not true…only teenagers can be that emotional and give in to them. Aneways I see you are an ardent fan…I wont even talk about Kangana’s talent . I am only saying what she displayed is not Feminism according to Feminism experts and what it stands for…not even my opinion.

                                            1. Kangana and all hardworking, talented actors should ridicule non actors who have a career because of connections. Sonam does not deserve to be an actress, she is terrible – they are others who r struggle day in and day out with talent and they are the one deserving.

                                              From what I gather, Kangana appears very emotional, but that is not a bad thing – being in-tune with ur emotions is extremely healthy, know how you feel and reacting is the most natural thing. These days we try to control our emotions and reactions to an event that really affect us because society demands it – eventually many of us end up twisted or on medication for depression. So no, its not only teenagers who r emotional but generally emotionally healthy ppl r emotional and reactive of that feeling.

                                              If Vidya didnt react “negatively” than that is Vidya’s prerogative and that is perfectly fine too.

                                              And what exactly is Feminism according to the experts? I dont think u understand a turnip about feminism, gender equality or even human behavior. An opinion based on ignorance is no opinion at all – its nonsense!

                                              1. You should worry about ur understanding of words forget analysing me. I had some class not to make a personal remark about you. I write code , a better coder than me has no right to say I do not deserve to be hired by anyone. Are you best in ur field of work ? Nobel Laureate ? No ? then you dont deserve to exist in ur field ? How does this sound ? I have excellent understand of human behavior … and I accept and agree mediocrity exists in this world and is not full of geniuses . I do not disrespect anyone with less talent and wish them to be dead. You advocate public humiliation of Sonam…another woman and talking about feminism and actually calling me having no understanding of feminism.

                                                1. Don’t put awful words in my mouth, I do not wish Sonam was dead, I do not wish for her to be out of work or anything, I know they work hard but they get opportunities others may never get in a lifetime, That is unfair and no it is not unfair Kangana is talented actress and Sonam isn’t! How is that a valid argument? That’s insane. Is it unfair Tendulkar was 1 of the greatest batsmen that ever played? And not me?

                                                  I dont wish her bad but it is movies – and the most talented should get the job. If they had audition for Neerja like they did for Dangal, imagine the kind of talented actresses they would’ve found. Neerja was unwatchable for me because Sonam was terrible in it.

                                                  No, I am not the best in my field but I have an honors degree at undergraduate level, currently doing a Master’s in Engineering, working with 4 years experience to my name & working from the bottom up. I cannot apply nor am I deserving of a job that requires 5+/10+ experience with a salary 3 times my current. It is not fair and I don’t encourage favoritism or nepotism – It breeds mediocrity. Pushing society for betterment should be encouraged, it brings about excellence and everyone of us should strive for that. We shouldn’t make excuses for nonsense.

                                                  I in no way advocate public humiliation for anyone.

                                                  1. “Kangana and all hardworking, talented actors should ridicule non actors who have a career because of connections. ” Your words…not mine.
                                                    Engineers and MS students and then a job …dime a dozen out there just like me. Guess what that makes all of us very “Average mediocre” .
                                                    I think Kangana should produce movies , conduct auditions and then be responsible for betterment of Bollywood. KJO and Sonam are not interested in taking that job. Indian cricket is not 100% private fund…Sonam and co are funding their movies…she has 100% say on her productions.You as audience can reject a movie.Everyone have right to spend the money they have …however they want. We are not living in communist regime .

                                                    1. “Kangana and all hardworking, talented actors should ridicule non actors who have a career because of connections.” yes those r my words, may be “ridicule” is a strong word but they need to stand up for outsiders & talent and not encourage the “less able with connections” to take hostage of INDIA”S FILM INDUSTRIES!! I stress on INDIA – It belongs to everyone NOT just KJO and the LIKES.

                                                      And I am not the one making fun of outsiders, laughing at what they wear and their command or lack there of off a person’s language. It was Sonam, Kjo and so many others who did it to Kangana, Irfaan, Vidya and so many others. Most of them are snooty and shallow, half of them lack all talent and then they parade themselves at award shows like they are Gods, unattainable super humans. BS!! – Oh what was Sonam’s famous words “If you’re not good looking, you’re considered a good actor, you know what I mean?”

                                                      I do agree she is trying her hand at production & the likes, which is commendable. Ppl grow up and change, fix old happens become more sensitive to certain issues etc. FYI I am not trying to attack Sonam or point fingers at any1.

                                                      I am far from “average mediocre”, sorry u feel that way about urself.. I have responsibilities towards my community & to my clients and I do my bit to make a positive difference.

                                                      1. Please! Dont be sorry for me… I do not view “Average mediocre” as something despicable. In fact anyone who did not achieve world recognition like Nobel prize, Fields Medal or atleast a publication in Nature in respective field along with having a PHD according to me are average and mediocre. I applaud you that you think extremely high of yourself. I am no Maryam Mirzakhani or Manjul bhargava discussing BW gossip in OSOP.

                                                  2. Admin – To be fair when Sridevi and Madhuri were crowd pullers they made more money than the heros….even the Khans. ex hum aapke hain kaun, chaand ka tukda,ARMY etc and hell even south star venkatesh , nagarjuna paid less than sridevi and she was paid on par with chiranjeevi even though these actors are superstars and owned big production houses. Kangana is no where near that level of stardom. Aamir khan interferes since he puts money in his movies….his interference worked in film’s favor. There was a time not many people worked with Aamir since he interfered…RGV had issues in Rangeela….it took Aamir many years and Many super HITS to get his interference accepted. Everything needs to be viewed in its context …This is not simple a Man-Woman thing. Kangana is good…so are many actors out there is specific roles. I have seen ‘Still Alice’ the other day …no one in BW can do what Julianne Moore did. Please let us not overrate anyone.

                                                    1. Things took a bad shift between the late 90s and now. There is no way on hell’s earth that Kangana & Deepika deserve less pay than the likes of Ranbir, Ranveer and Shahid.

                                                      Kangana made equal to them (Shahid & Saif) in Rangoon – and everyone made a huge fuzz. She obviously deserved much more, the movie’s original name was suppose to be Julia, they changed it because of “hero sensitivity” and at the last minute Vishal edited out important parts from Julia’s graph. So how is all that fair? Because Sridevi and Maduri had good times in the 90s?

                                                      I do agree with the Aamir Khan bit, he controls everything but met up will a lot of resistance in the earlier days.

                                                2. LOL Kangana has only 2 hits in her filmography? Even her debut Gangster was a hit. The greater part of her films are hits, you do not even know her filmography, but you run to express your opinion. Aditya and Hrithik is an entire industry? Khan can express their opinion, but Kanganа does not. It’s okay that she has 3 national awards for her, she still has to be a female without her own opinion. And you still condemn feminism? I can call your opinion sexism, who will be right?

                                                  1. “ghjk“ lost my attention after the black magic comment. For real? Don’t spread the stupid to your kids, troll.

                                                  2. Anyone can express opinion…as long as they bear the brunt of repercussions . Even khans started talking only when they can afford to talk…guess what they had to publicly apologize too …all Khans had to.

                                                    1. Of course Khans always have to apologize and that is simply 100% because they are “muslims” – Hindu extremist go nuts when the Khans say anything that some how offends their sensitivity.

                                                      and dont even go with the fatwa argument, most fatwas issued for movies and the likes (in India) is never supported by the media or politicians and those “fatwas” are not bids for someone head – Like the new Padmavati fiasco.

                                                      1. Mr bachchan also had to apologize so did many other hindu actors. I can dig up instances…even big ass politicians too. Its rashmi who started questioning ” only khans can have opinions and not Kangana ? ” all i am saying is there is downside of it for everyone Man/Woman alike.

                                                      2. Hindu extremists go nuts. Muslim extremists chop the hands off their victim and kill people!! Double standards.

                                                3. Haha Vishal should shun Shahid for heavly editing the movie & getting him no BB or maybe shun the producer for not paying Fearless Nadia to buy the rights to her story. These men in bollywood r the heights of under handed and then they look to a strong woman to blame. Kangana is obviously an easy target but the thinking public sides with her & that is all that matters.

                                                4. my poor Kangana, this stupid sexist Bollywood just keeps her from working. It is much higher than the cheap level of Bollywood (very glad that there are no “bad” blind about Kanganа, she is completely frank in public and behind her side, unlike the so-called “holy” stars .but strange, why about Bebo and Saif there is not one blind?

                                                  1. Kangana is too good for Bollywood. Her acting and even her style is just above excellence for mediocre BW. She was superb in Simran and will be superb in Manikarnika too. My fav of the current lot.

                                                5. Yawn. That Vishal Bharadwaj did not appreciate Kangana’s inputs is old news. She herself mentioned this in her interviews, without identifying who it was.
                                                  Instead , why doesn’t Rajeev Masand write about how unprofessional Shahid Kapoor is on sets? We heard fleetingly about his unprofessional behavior in Rangoon and now in Padmavati. Or about Alia, RS, DP., etc. Let’s be equal opportunity here. I guess its easy to see how strength of PR determines which actor is written about in blind items.

                                                  1. Also, I am certain that this cannot be the first time an actor has given Vishal Bharadwaj a hard time on sets, for whatever reason. i would love to hear about how he has dealt with those actors, especially if they are men. I will be shocked if he did not hide his tail between his legs for the rest of his life and silently sulked, as opposed to how he treated Kangana. Who raised these people?

                                                  2. Bcuz hes scared of taking on male actors. This is real instance of gender discrimination in Bollywood.

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